This is a photo of me
with Dick Wagner and Pete Woodman @ Tittabawassee Park in Freeland. It was a
glorious day; the weather was warm but the music was hot. This was a Michigan
rock reunion featuring Dick Wagner, Donny Hartman, Pete Woodman,
Saturday, May 26, 2012
White’s Bar The 75th
Anniversary Summer Concert Series
Savage Grace Reunion Saturday
June 16th
Al
Jacquez has reformed Savage Grace for an extended summer tour in 2012. The band
is considered one of the most progressive Michigan rock bands from 1969-72. They
incorporate blues and jazz with equal facility and Jacquez is considered to be
one of the great vocalists of the era. They released three albums to great
critical acclaim and are known to put on a superlative show that features their
best known works including Come On Down, All Along the Watchtower, Lady Rain,
Ivy, Roll River Roll and Turn Your Head - opening the show in none other than
Frost legend Donny Hartman. Get ready to rock! 5pm-2am. $15 tickets available @
White’s Bar, Records & Tapes Galore, Red Eye Café and through etix
Saturday June 30th
Summer Fest A-Go-Go
The
Banana Convention goes all out to create one of the best Outdoor festivals in
mid-Michigan.
This is
a pure rocking good time with 11 bands including Big Brother Smokes, Holy Gun,
Doogie, Killer Kong, Brody & the Busch Rd Trio, Desiring Dead Flesh,
Wilson, Parent the Seas, American Underdog, Your Mom and Live Pro Wrestling!
2pm-2am. $5 admission @ the door
July 14th Dick Wagner
returns with his very own Rock & Roll Barbecue
The
band is red hot and the 30 song set list will cover every era of Wagner’s
illustrious career from the Bossmen, the Frost and Ursa Major to Lou Reed and
Alice Cooper. Ex-Bossmen drummer Pete Woodman will open the show with his HIPs
band featuring Suzie Woodman. Tickets are $20 and are available @ White’s Bar,
Records & Tapes Galore, Red Eye café and etix
July 28th Chris
Redburn Presents…
The
Best in Rock, Blues and Hip Hop. There will be bands and Deejays and lots of
surprises. $5 admission @ the door
August 11th Picasso
Productions Presents the Back to School Punk Fest
featuring
Michale Graves (formerly of the Misfits and the Marky Ramone Band with Special Guests - Sinister Footwear, Johnny Mohawk And The Assassins,
The Mongrels, The Tosspints, 40oz Of Spite, Purple Nightmare, The Kincaids,
Murder Party, Explicit Bombers and more TBA.... Also DJ Snakes spins discs between
sets $10 tickets available @ White’s Bar, Records & Tapes Galore, Red Eye Café
and through etix
August 25th Chris Palmer Presents: The Crispy Fest
Tension Head, Know Lyfe, Sin
Theorem, Spork (Formerly Silverspork), The Ruiners, Crash Dollz, Narc Out The
Reds, The Kincaids, Dead Evolution, I Took The Fall, Sizzlechop, Killer Kong,
The Fischer Bodies Burlesque dancers and the always delightful Jagerettes &
much more. $7 admission
Crash Dollz
Severe Head Drama
Spit Shine Johnny
Last Born Legend
The Stick Arounds
Narc Out The Reds
The KincaidsThe Ruiners
Crash Dollz
Severe Head Drama
Spit Shine Johnny
Last Born Legend
The Stick Arounds
Narc Out The Reds
The Ruiners
Crash Dollz
Severe Head Drama
Spit Shine Johnny
Last Born Legend
The Stick Arounds
Narc Out The Reds
The Kincaids
Dead Evolution, Severing The Need, Mare Crisium, I Took The Fall,
Killer Kong, Archana, Sizzle Chop, Major Disappointment, Direwood, Desiring Dead Flesh, Elephant Ryderz and Bloodshot Sunday!! Also performing throughout the day will The Fischer Bodies Burlesque Dancers and a special Appearance by the always
This is a photo of Bill Kirchen @ White’s Bar around
10 years ago
I was all twisted up like a pretzel with excitement
and a little bit of apprehension about Bill Kirchen’s upcoming show. First of
all it’s on a Thursday, a weekday that used to be hot and is now totally
unpredictable. And local press didn’t seem too interested; in fact they ignored
the show. I wondered if anyone would remember Kirchen and all his glorious work
with Emmylou Harris, Nick Lowe, Doug Sahm, Elvis Costello et al, let alone his
groundbreaking performances with his first famous band Commander Cody & the
Lost Planet Airmen…
Seemed to me our memories can work against great artists
that aren’t part of the star makin’ machine of rock n’ roll legends and hall of
famers. Kirchen fits in that former not-the-star group of musicians who are
recognized in music circles yet reside somewhere this side of mass popularity
and mild acclaim. I guess Kirchen isn’t a brand like Seger or Kid Rock. I gotta
admit that I didn’t know much about Kirchen except for his Commander Cody days.
I read a glowing article about Bill in Blue Suede News, a great quarterly magazine
for anyone who loves American music.
I remember attending a Commander Cody show in the
early-to-mid seventies and was absolutely blown away by them. They fiddled and
rocked and did a cool countrified boogie. They were more like the Flying
Burrito Brothers than say, the Eagles, more authentic and more anchored to the
counter-culture. But I really didn’t know much about all that other wonderful
music he created in the ensuing 25 years or so.
Bill and I had the chance to phone talk several times
before the show, and that was it for me. I was taken by his droll sense of
humor and his acrid social commentary; we connected. I thought we were brothers-in-arms;
at least we shared an ironic point of view about life. Kirchen is a rootsy real
deal musician that’s been around the piss-pot and can laugh at his own follies
and foibles. I just loved the idea of Bill Kirchen, the man as a concept, as a
way of being. It was pretty far out; maybe I could learn something from him.
Yeah, he could be my teacher and spiritual guide. And as sure as I sitting
here, grousing about life in general and thumbing my nose at every false
bourgeois impulse that courses through my body, I’m ready for a conversion.
Kirchen is a true road warrior, he’s performed on
stages large and small across the U.S. of A and Europe for all of his adult
life. Kirchen told me he’s performed more than he’s recorded and yet he has an
impressive catalog of music and a Grammy nomination under his belt. Like any
traveling minstrel, he comes to town with only the basics - his classic
hot-rod-lincoln Fender Telecaster, effects pedal, a pick and his trusty
microphone. He’s originally from Ann Arbor and, by his own admission, is a true
corn-fed blue blood Michigander at heart.
Kirchen is tall and lean, dressed in jeans and flannel, exuding a
laid-back down home vibe. He opens with a rootsy, country style instrumental,
separating bass notes from treble notes, adding in the bass runs that lead up
to his remarkably fluid chording – a classic!
He sure set the tone for what was to come, countrified
trucker songs that seemed to be uniquely Americana – though in my hitchin’ days
I never did meet a hillbilly druck-drivin’ man I could possibly relate to,
either I was a bit too odd or they were a bit too strung out and in a bag. So,
I’m not sure why I like these songs so much, maybe because it’s not just about
driving; it’s more about living and not fitting in and being alone and lonely
and feeling that nothing is really adding up. It’s when Kirchen twists that effects knob and
sings, “Here I sit with a broken heart, took three bennies and my truck won’t
start”, that I can get into that dark
metaphor and whine and moan right along with his old beat-up telecaster.
Kirchen’s “Hazardous Cargo Trilogy” (Dexedrine, Marijuana and Booze) was a gas
with one of my all time favorite stoner weepers, “Down To Seeds and Stems”.
Kirchen played his ass off up with each finger keeping
real busy, up and down the neck from the bass string to the E string,
accentuating each note with such clarity it made me want to just sit with it
for awhile. He sang a couple of sweet
finger pickin’ songs he did with Nick Lowe including “Castles in the Sand” and
“Hammer of the Honky Tonk God” and a very cool “Rockabilly Funeral”, a dead-on
toe tapping, belly rubbing laugh fest. Kirchen’s singin’ surprised me …he has a
great voice that recalls a latter day – say late 80’s or early 90’s – Dick Wagner
(Alice Cooper, Lou Reed). But it’s his pickin’ and grinnin’ that really sets
him apart from the usual suspects. He ain’t no Van Halen or Hendrix, none of
that flashy louder than God rock star sass; instead Kirchen is a master of
country rhythms and warm tones.
His tribute to Buck Owens and Don Rich as well as his
Grammy nominated “Poultry in Motion” and his take on Santo & Johnny’s Sleep
Walk” illustrate his ease in conveying an incredible array of sound images. The
highlight of the show was “Hot Rod Lincoln”, Kirchen’s big hit with Commander
Cody & the Lost Planet Airmen. His execution was brilliant and the middle
section contained an extended tribute to all of his heroes from country to
rockers; from the Fab Four to the pre-Fab Four; He jimmy-jammed on Howling
Wolf, Hendrix, Deep Purple, Eddie Cochran, The Yardbirds, Stevie Ray Vaughn,
Cream and on and on.
I loved it all
like a hot bath and a massage and getting’ just a little bit naughty.The show
was not without a few hitches. Although Bill is a true professional, he got
angry with a few young lovelies who were strutting their stuff, laughing a
little too hard and talking a little too loud. Bill stopped the show and told
them to be quiet. He was noticeably angry. They laughed and stomped out. It was
an uncomfortable moment.
After the show, I gave Bill his guarantee and we
talked about a possible future show. I was hoping he could bring Nick Lowe to
White’s; Bill was doubtful. He acknowledged that Lowe was a master but that he
is essentially unknown in the heartland. They performed together throughout the
mid-west a few years back to sparse crowds and small paychecks. He left
abruptly. I lost a friend.
Behind the scenes @ the Frost 30 Year Reunion Concert. My partner Scott Seeburger and I sat in on a
rehearsal a few days before the concert. We listened intently, in awe of this
great band. The Frost sounded great as if the ensuing 30 years did not alter
their incredible craft. Donny was in great voice, Wagner was rockin’ his ass
off and Bobby Rigg pounded the kit like a kid with an intractable erection. The
band was in the process of paring down the set list. Sweet lady Love was
jettisoned early on – that hurt. I loved that song. It appeared to my ear that
Donny’s vocals were in the best shape – just listen to In the Middle of the
Night and This Band Can Rock. He nailed it.
He did Donny’s Blues like a young man possessed by a voodoo gris gris
that wouldn’t quit. Rigg was singing harmonies and he sounded great. I talked
with bassist Gordy Garris a few weeks before and he wished the Frost the best
and he held no grudges. Gordy is just a sweet man. Tom Randall signed on to do
the bass and he did an admirable job. Near the end of the rehearsal Scott and I
approached the band about doing our favorite Frost song – a stone masterpiece
entitled Sunshine from 1967. Didn’t happen.
Tracii Guns
The League of Gentlemen
Meet LA Guns
Tracii Guns is a rock & roll survivor. He’s toured the
world and left his name like a signature with Guns & Roses and LA Guns. He
manned up, wished them well and never looked back. Last year two versions of LA Guns were
touring at the same time. Tracii did what he needed to do; walked away from the
fray and fashioned a new vehicle for his creative juices to flow. The League of
Gentlemen was born. Tracii is recognized as a virtuoso guitar player with a
fine tuned craft and an astonishing eclecticism.
Tracii will be performing @ the Hamilton Street Pub on Saturday
June 2nd. Tickets are $8 adv: $10 door. The Doors open @ 3pm.
Special Musical Guests include Crash Dollz, Sizzlechop, Harlet, and Fearing
gthe End. Advanced tickets are available @ the Hamilton Street Pub, The Vault
and White’s Bar.
Tracii, you’ve had a
great career most musicians only dream of. How have you been able to do it for
so long and keep the dream alive?
Well, I think I might have a different perspective than a
lot of other guys. You know I’ve been playing my whole life, and it’s kind of,
you know, the puzzle that you just keep building. It’s not really, I don’t
really have a destination or anything like that. It’s just you constantly
create and be creative with other people and, you know, give people something
new to listen to every now and then. That’s kind of the whole reason I did it
in the first place and it’s the reason I still do it. You know, I don’t have,
I’m not a real goal-oriented kind of musician.
I listened to your
guitar work. I think you’re a great guitarist. You can do country, acoustic,
and you can rock & roll and rip it up with equal facility - you can really
hit the mark.
That’s the thing, you know, being my age I grew up mostly in
the ‘70s, and those were most of my formative musical years so you know
anything from like the ‘30s like straight through 1980, you know all that stuff
goes into my playing, whether it’s country or mellow or the blues. I mean all
these things you hear when you’re growing up, it just kind of gets inside your
soul and you got to let them out. If you’re a musician, that’s kind of the way
you filter through music. You know it’s hard to just listen to music when
you’re a musician. You’re always like, “Oh, what’s that guy doing? How did he
do that?” You know that’s kind of how my brain works.
I’ve heard that from
other guitarists. It makes a whole lot of sense when you see how they do an inverted
chord or like Keith Richards when he discovered an open tuning technique. He
did this crazy 5 string open G stuff that started with Honky Tonk Woman and
suddenly he had this great new sound.
Yes, like Satisfaction, you know, you kind of always take
things for granted when you’re just listening to great songs, but that
riff...ahh, ahh, ah ah ah. It’s incredible. I can only imagine what people in
their 30s and 40s thought of that sound when it first came out. It was so
rebellious. Now it’s nothing’, you know, but then, I mean probably you could
only describe it as anarchistic.
Oh absolutely. I
didn’t even know it was a guitar when I first heard it.
Yeah. You know, and that’s really what it’s all about. You
kind of let these things flow through you and if you’re lucky, you might come
up with some stuff that’s really different and people notice it and they love
it and they pick up an instrument because you influenced them or, you know,
inspired them somehow.
You really get some incredible sounds from the
guitar. I was thinking about the intro to Don’t Call Me Crazy and that
beautiful acoustic piece in Ballad of Jayne and Little Soldier. You have so
much with you, all that knowledge.
I think that’s the thing. When you talk about guys like
Chuck Berry, then you talk about guys like Hendrix, and you talk about Jimmy
Page and guys like that, you know they had a kind of smaller encyclopedia to
draw from so they could get to the conclusion a lot quicker. Being 15 to 20 years
younger than those guys I had a lot more music to pull from. I think it takes
somebody that’s writing and creating and willing to keep on developing so that
you keep drawing from this never-ending well of music and ideas and things like
that. So I think it’s possible to have a longer influential career because you
have so much more to offer. My favorite guitarists stopped just improvising on
the blues and took it somewhere else. A guy like me has the benefit of all that
heavy metal that goes along with the blues and obviously stuff like Pink Floyd.
Man, there’s so much great stuff to draw from. I just keep making these musical
puzzles and then play them in front of people.
Did you have a
teacher or a mentor?
I had one guitar lesson when I was like 11, I think. This guy,
I’ll never forget his name. He had a really weird name. His name was Gunnars
Knubis.
That’s a weird name
for sure
Yeah, he was from another planet I think…my mom was taking
pedal steel lessons there. So she said, “Do you want lessons?” I said, “Not
really, but I’ll try it.” I was a real Page-head
when I was 10, 11 years old. This guy didn’t want to have nothin’ to do with
Jimmy Page. He just wanted to teach me all the Clapton stuff, and at that time
the Clapton stuff just did not grab me. He wanted me to play like After
Midnight and stuff like that. I wanted to know the solo Communication Breakdown
and Good Times. I wanted all the mystery. I wanted to know where all these
sounds came from. I loved Rush, too, and he’d never even really heard of Rush.
So that was my one lesson. After that in junior high school the guitar ensemble
all the way for three years. That was a real lesson, definitely, learning how
to play with other people in a group. You know that was real beneficial. Then
after Hollywood Vampires, our third record, I went to Valley College, the music
program there, and brushed up on some theory and stuff like that. So you know
I’m schooled to a point. Most of my rock and roll guitar playing is improvised
from stuff I picked up off live records, like Frampton Comes Alive and Ted
Nugent Double Live Gonzo, you know stuff like that in the mid-70s when I was
really learning my stuff.
There was a lot of
great stuff then too. You’re currently touring with a new band. I want to go
into this new formation
It’s the League of Gentlemen and we do mostly brand-new
material. We do seven of the L.A. Guns classics and then we do some materials
from some of the other bands I’ve been in over the years. You know, so it’s a
big. There’s some music, and you know, kind of like a big pimple in each city
and then we get there and we pop the pimple and all the different stuff comes
out.
Can you describe the
creative, because I was listening to Hollywood Vampires and Cocked and Loaded and
this great stuff. Can you describe what the creative process was to create such
landmark albums?
I think it all starts, kind of in a way, either sitting on
the couch watching TV with the guitar in your hand. Back then in particular we
had these little tape recorders and stuff and we would play around with these
little ideas that you have and then you build upon them and you take multiple
ideas and you put them together and kind of string something that makes sense
together. The way I’ve always done it is I try to create a real solid
foundation of music so that if someone were only to hear the music, the music
would appeal to them first and then I’d hand it to whoever is singing or
writing lyrics and say, “Here’s a fine piece of music see what you can do with
it. I’ve never attempted to be any type
of lyricist or poet. That’s really not my bag. I would record all my ideas on
four track or just a regular tape recorder and I’d get into a rehearsal and
teach the band everything and then the band would have their ideas, the singers
would have their ideas, and ideas were flying around from everywhere. We just
started jamming on the stuff especially rock and roll. You know you just start
jamming on the stuff and if it feels good, then you know that you’re heading in
a good direction.
I want to back up
just a second. Who is in the band right now with you?
Right now I’ve got Doni Gray, he’s playing drums and he was
in Izzy and the Ju Ju Hounds, and he was in a band called Burning Tree. That’s
how I know him with Marc Ford who also happened to be with the Black Crowes later
on. So he’s like a real soul, blues, Mitch Mitchell kind of guy. Then there’s a
guy named Scott Foster Harris. He’s from Texas. We actually started working on
this project about three years ago. He’s just a real kind of throw-back to the
early ‘70s, kind of Robert Plant looking guy. Really into psychedelic music,
really into the blues and country and stuff. We do the bulk of the writing with
Doni. Then my friend, Craig, we call him Patches. He’s a bass player. He’s a
teacher… of everything. Then we have an organ player, a guy named John Bird who
has played with everybody out there. He’s actually a couple of months younger
than me, so we have a wide range of ages.
I don’t want to bring
up too much of the past that you may not want to talk about, but I was
wondering if you feel like commenting on the early days of Guns N’ Roses,
another band that uses your name.
You know that was
another great time and another great launching pad for everybody. Again that
was a situation, a bunch of guys that were friends and we had amazing creative
energy together, and we were young. When you’re that young, your ideas come
fast and often and with a lot of ownership, you know. There’s a volatile
situation once you really started going, with everybody growing in different
directions obviously, and Axl now with a complete new line-up of guys. You
know, it’s turned into his thing. Like I said, it would be scary for any of
these guys to be in the same band for that long. The difference is with Guns N’
Roses, those cats, man, they’re leaving billions of dollars on the table for a
10-year period. I guess in the end money’s not that important. You can’t take
it with you. Axl doesn’t have any kids, so he aint’ gonna leave it to anybody,
so, you know, he can just do what he wants and let his creative juices flow.
That was a great experience in the end. I’m very proud of all the ups and downs.
Do you still talk to
some of the old mates from Guns N’ Roses?
Uh, not very often. I see Dobson and Slash. I saw Izzy for
the first time in years a couple of years ago. It’s just like you saw each
other yesterday. They say, “Man, what’s going on?” you know. They’re all good
guys and everybody’s been through their thing and everybody’s human. I haven’t talked to Axl since, shit like
1989, but I don’t think anybody has.
You’ve been in
several bands. I was thinking about Contraband and Brides of Destruction,
Poison. What was most satisfying for you in terms of creativity or even
something more emotional like brotherhood and friendship?
Well, I think there are a lot of different angles. Probably
the greatest family I’ve been in is these guys I’m with now just because we’re
all on the same musical level, you know, so this is a real highlight for me
right now. I think as far as live performance, I think Brides of Destruction by
far. It was the most focused metal-type band I’d ever been in, and a lot of
that had to do with Nikki being very focused and keeping me from straying and
going into blues and la-la land all the time. We were able to really put a very
appealing metal show together. We looked great, the songs were great, we
sounded great live, so that had certain highlights. I think the early, early
Guns, you know, the first five years after our first record came out that whole
experience was quite, quite a ride. That’s fine when I was 21, you know, I
thought my career was over when I was 26, so that was 20 years ago. Then those
five years were pretty amazing, you know, just the traveling the world for the
first time, playing and having millions
of people love ya and know that it’s you and coming up to me, “Hey, I played
guitar because of you” when I was 22, you know.
The LP Rips the
Covers off, you did did all these covers. You’re so eclectic, AC/DC, Kevin
Rudolf, Blue Oyster Cult, the Beach Boys. What prompted you to do that?
I think you don’t become the player you are without learning
other people’s music, you know what I mean. I just think that over years you
have ideas about how you want to do things, so for me personally I do cover
stuff to see if I can recreate it and amplify on it and things like that.
What do you consider
the highlight of your career?
That’s a good question. Well I think playing the Download
Festival with Brides of Destruction in England in 2004. I mean that was
incredible because…It wasn’t a huge crowd. It was like 15,000 or something. We
were playing in one of the smaller tents. We weren’t on the main stage, but we
were on the stage with Slayer and it was very cool. We did our whole Brides of
Destruction set, did the L.A. Guns set. I mean that’s pretty satisfying. That’s
the only band that I really feel I could do that with, even at this point,
because it was so focused. The chemistry was so right. We played loud and heavy
and fast, and that was the highlight for that kind of thing. I’m sure there are
other things, but that gig always sticks out, that one particular one,
especially that much later in my life.
Do you have any last
thoughts or anything you want to say to be published to your fans?
I can’t wait to get back to the Hamilton Street Pub. It’s a
great place to play and I met some cool people there like Chris Palmer…he’s a
good guy and when you come into a League of Gentlemen show you’ve got to come
in with an open mind. You’re not going to see L.A. Guns. You’re going to see
our guys on stage really pouring their soul out on the stage. At times it’s a
lot mellower than L.A. Guns but at other times it’s a lot more frantic. It’s a
live band so you know people coming to the show shouldn’t have any preconceived
idea of what they’re about to see because we mix it up. I guarantee you it’s a
great band.
This is a photo of the nucleus of The Playboys, Saginaw’s
first great rock & roll band; From Left to Right - Warren Keith, shirtless
Pete Woodman and Butch White. White was one of the most influential players in
the emerging rock scene in mid-Michigan and a Truman-like curmudgeon with a show-me
attitude. He doubted the authenticity of the Four Seasons until he heard them
play @ the Horseshoe Bar in the early sixties. Butch played everything from
rock & roll to Polka and was part of the Medallions, a loose aggregation of
Saginaw musicians also performed at the Horseshoe. A few years later a few
members of the Medallions moved to South Carolina and took part in recording a
song entitled Double Shot (Of My Baby’s Love) – a big hit for the Swingin’
Medallions in 1966!
This is a photo of Sal Valentino and me during the 70th
Anniversary celebration of White’s Bar on Saturday July 21st, 2007.
I was totally thrilled to meet the “voice” of the Beau Brummels. I found myself
giving Sal several big hugs with an awe shucks star struck type of hero worship
that was just a bit over the top. Sal took it all in stride. It all began after
I bought a few CD’s from his website. He also sent me a promo photo with an
inscription made out to me. It’s on the wall at White’s to this day. We began planning his concert in mid-April.
It almost didn’t happen. I just couldn’t find a band willing to devote the
effort to learn the songs – some were quite complex instrumentally. Ron Elliott
the primary songwriter and lyricist for the Beau Brummels was an exquisite
finger pickin’ guitarist with few rivals. In the late sixties guitarists were
playing loud and heavy blues-based rock; Elliot was creating intricate country
folk stylings that had session men like
Glen Campbell, Jerry Reed. The 1968 stoned masterpiece Bradley’s Barn was the
culmination of the Beau Brummels artistry. At my insistent pain-in-the-ass
pleading Sal agreed to perform a few songs from my all-time favorite LP. But my
problems had only just begun. I was still looking for a band, my first choice
the mighty Maybe August declined. The Gentlemen Callers also declined citing
the complex signature changes and the difficult acoustic guitar work. Finally
Barbarossa a talented new band fresh from high school agreed to take the
assignment. I dodged a bullet. On May 21st Sal sent me 4 copies of a 2 CD set list of
twenty songs to be given to the band with one copy for me. The band would learn
the songs from listening to the CDs. That was all well and good but Barbarossa
was unable to devote sufficient time for rehearsal. They weren’t quite ready to
perform this complex music that wasn’t quite rock & roll nor was it folk or
country. It was a cool hybrid that was unlike most of the music released in the
new millennium. I was a bit worried so I called Bob Hauser a local country/folk
veteran who could sing like a dove and play anything under the sun. Bob was
available and he began learning the songs and separating out the parts for each
instrument – guitar, keyboards, bass, drums etc. The first rehearsal with Sal occurred a week
or so before the show. The band showed signs of progress and would continue to
rehearse with Hauser in the upcoming week. It was a go. The show was
spectacular – Sal did the Beau Brummel hits Laugh Laugh, Just A little, and Tell
Me Why. He successfully reinterpreted the Dylan classics Isis and Everything is
Broken and he dedicated An Added Attraction (Come and See Me) to me. It was a
thrill of a lifetime for me. Sal and I would make occasional contact in the
ensuing 5 years. A few years ago he
called and left a message wishing me well. He said he just wanted to hear my
voice. Wow.
Elaine ‘Spanky’ McFarlane, the
voice of the seminal folk rock band Spanky & Our Gang performed a concert @
White’s Bar during Thanksgiving weekend in 2003 with fellow Mamas & Papas
alumnus Laurie Seaman Lewis. It was a bit impromptu yet planned. Laurie was
well known in Saginaw by sixties rock & roll enthusiasts as the lead singer
for Pitche Blende, a band lead by the extraordinary guitar wizardry of Dennis
Malenfant. The band rocked especially when Laurie and her sister Ginny (bass
guitar and vocals) leapt out front and center to the edge of the stage. They
were simply stunning…beautiful. They had the young men in the audience
salivating like a dog with a bone. They were the visual and spiritual center of
the band. But in 2003 the stars were aligned and the aspects were right. Laurie
was coming home to visit her family for the Thanksgiving Holiday; Spanky was
coming back to Pontiac to visit her old band mate Nigel Pickering. Laurie
proposed doing a mini-concert featuring songs that they performed together when
Laurie joined Spanky, John Phillips, Denny Doherty and Scott McKenzie (he had a
flower power hit with San Francisco) of the new Mamas & Papas (1986 and
1991-1993). I was beside myself. I was a big fan of both these talented ladies
– it was a dream come true! Laurie sent the sheet music for most of the songs
and I got them to Bruce Crawley (soundman) to help teach the pick-up band the
songs. Other band members included Ginny Seaman (bass), Tom Dolson (drums), and
Matt Besey (guitar) – a true Saginaw super group. It was a great set list that
covered songs from Spanky’s early folk blues days with The New Wine singers to
her incredible journey through the sixties and her later involvement with the
Mamas & Papas. Spanky was in great voice that night, her powerful contralto
could still soar through the stratosphere like an Eagle signaling her arrival.
Laurie Lewis took the high parts, her voice was powerful and she never lost
pitch – a great singer. The set list included Band Jam, California Dreaming,
Sunday Will Never Be the Same, Lazy Days, 500 Miles, Wayfaring Stranger, Bring
it On Home, Wild Women Don’t Get the Blues, Prescription for the Blues, Buddy
Can You Spare Me a Dime. It was a glorious night; a treasure of memories.
Kim Wilson played White’s twice around 2002. Kim is the
singer and harp player for the Fabulous Thunderbirds and he came my way through
Detroit blues rocker Doug Deming. Doug is a true believer and a genuine guy who
walks with integrity. At White’s Wilson stuck to the blues. His set list
consisted of several songs from his phenomenal LPs Looking’ For Trouble –
F-Fat, Love Attack, JR’s Jump, and Love My Baby and songs from Tiger Man
–Boogie All Night, Hunch Rhythm and the Hustle is On. Wilson was truly
spectacular. I’ve never heard anyone play the harp like Wilson – perfect tone
and nuanced execution. He sustained a note for like 3 minutes. I wondered how
on earth he could do that without losing pitch. There was a sub-plot to all
this that had to do with Wison’s girlfriend. She had been married to Greg
“Fingers” Taylor a great musician who had played piano and harp for Jimmy
Buffett. Taylor had performed @ White’s on several occasions with Doug Demming
in the past few years. I really liked Fingers, even have his Greatest Hits CD.
It is pure magic. Anyway, the lady was simply stunning – beautiful. She was
friendly and easy to talk to. But during the show she and a customer struck up
a conversation, a loud laugh fest that shifted the crowd’s attention to them.
Kim was noticeably flustered; his complexion turned a brighter shade of red. He
was pissed but following a sudden break, Wilson’s wayward lover quieted down
and the show ended with a crescendo of glorious music. I never saw Kim Wilson again.
I miss him. He is truly a great artist!
This is a photo of me with Mose Allison. The show was
arranged by bassist extraordinaire Bruce Crawley. I had learned of Mose through
my love of the Who. I was a fan of the Who’s early catalog of hits such as I
Can’t Explain, I Can See for Miles, Call Me Lightening and the LP’s Tommy and
Who’s Next. But it was The Who’s Live at Leeds LP that brought Young Man’s
Blues into my consciousness. I loved the song, it seemed to speak directly to
me. I saw it as a Mose Allison masterpiece. So, Crawley hooked me up with Mose;
got his phone number and I gave him a call. We arranged a date that would not
interfere with a gig he was doing in Flint the same month. There was this
acknowledged courtesy of only booking a piggy back show with permission from
the venue or promoter. The Flint venue agreed to permit the gig at White’s Bar
as we were rather intimate (less than 100 seating). I was excited. Only thing
is, I thought Mose was a black man. When he arrived I thought he was the
manager, I asked about Mose and he said, “I’m Mose.” Oops. The Brush/Lopez Trio
and knocked it out smooth and in the pocket – great band. I loved the song Jack
- Brush’s tribute to Jack Bruske. Mose
took the stage and started out with an instrumental filled with stops and
starts and tempo changes called Excursion and Interlude, so far so good. He had
a cool sloppy piano technique - rolling at breakneck speed and taking no
prisoners. He played a ton of songs from his vast catalog including Kidding in
the Square, Parchman Farm, You Call it Jogging (But I Call it Running Around),
Ever Since the World Ended, I Ain’t Got Nothing But the Blues, Trouble in Mind and Monster ID. His lyrics
run deep with irony and irreverence. He’s a stoned philosopher and teller of
truths. I loved his style. He was already an elderly man and he would speak up
and tell the truth without rancor or hostility. Case in point; I was taking
several photos with my cheap drug store throwaway when Mose stopped the music
looked me straight in the eye and said, “stop it, I’m not a model.” I shrugged
all red faced and embarrassed but Mose made it right by having us do a photo
together. Sweet genius. The Kinks leader Ray Davies once said that Mose was the
missing link between blues and jazz and Van Morrison did an entire album of
Mose Allison’s songs. After the show Mose and the band sat quietly in the storage room at White’s
- the bassist and drummer never made eye
contact. Mose looked tired. He accepted his pay, looked at it for a moment and
put it in his pocket. Sometimes intimacy can be too much to ask.
Chad Cunningham
The Creation of a Benevolent Fortress
Bullfrog Records
Chad Cunningham is a man of purpose and honor. He grew up in
an artistic family and music became the food of love, a second language for a
young boy who idolized his rock & roll father. It isn’t any wonder that Chad followed in his
father’s footsteps. They were inseparable – father and son. Chad learned plenty
from his father, not just about beautiful sounds or syncopated rhythms but
creating a life worth living and walking a straight line with integrity. The
pursuit of excellence is as natural for Cunningham as taking a deep belly
breath fresh air and exhaling with a smile. Impossible expectations became a
love without an ending. Bullfrog Records was born…
Chad, what led to
your interest in music?
My interest in music…hmm - my dad played drums behind Sonny
and Cher back in the day. He was always in a band, and I grew up with music. He
played in Battle of the Bands, he was in the Delrays and the Fall-Outs way back
in the day. He played against Ted Nugent, played with Bob Seger and all those
guys, and I always kind of grew up with music in the house. My dad playing in
the bands, so I guess that’s where it comes up from.
I heard about your
father, and I think you take after him. What did you learn from your dad?
What did I learn from my dad? I’ve just always been around
it. I guess I don’t know how to answer. He’s just always influenced us, you
know, with music. My dad’s my best friend and we hang out together, so yeah I
guess everything we do is kind of together.
When did you form
Bullfrog Records?
Bullfrog Records would have formed in 1997. There was a band
called Lucid Young. Really how it kind of all started was I recorded a record
from a band, Question Mark and the Mysterians. There was a record label that
hired me to record it called Collectible Records, and we did Question Mark and
the Mysterians album which is still in stores today. It has 96 tears on it, of
course, and other popular songs because their song recording rights were up and
so they needed it re-recorded, so we re-recorded it. When I got done with that,
Bobby Balderama wanted to do a solo blues project, and so that’s kind of how
the label started. Then another band called Lucid Jones and a band called the
Haskells which Andy Reed was a part of. Then the label really faded, I want to
say in 2000 when everybody was downloading music illegally.
We couldn’t find a good way to sell records and do stuff, I
kind of walked away from it just a little bit and got back into just promoting
shows and doing the live shows in the Tri-City area. Then probably two years
ago, Bobby Balderama came to me and said, “You’ve got to sign this band.” I
said, “I’m done signing bands.” He said, “Well, I just want you to listen to
it.” Out of respect to him, I listened to it and again, it was the band “Finding
Clyde.” Later that week one of their
songs “Thoughts of You” came up on my IPod. I said, “Wow, that’s a great song,”
and I couldn’t figure out what artist it was from, and so we looked, and sure
enough, it was Finding Clyde. I called Bobby and said, “I want to talk with
those guys.” He got us together, and I’ve been working with them now for two
years, so that’s kind of the long and short of Bullfrog, I guess.
Finding Clyde is really
hittin’ it big. They’re really living the life. How was the process of breaking
them out into a more national scene?
Yeah, that was a royal pain in the butt. It’s a very hard
process. It’s endless miles, calls, and travel and going to see everybody, and
make them aware, and you know, just a lotta, lotta, lotta work. But it’s been good;
I mean the Active Rock has embraced them. They went to 39 on the single called,
“Let Me Be.” Nikki Sixx from Motley Crue
picked them as the pick of the week and said their song was better than Gus
Mac, and there’s a little rivalry, which is fun. Now they’re getting ready to
release their next song. Their album went out to college radio three weeks ago,
and they’ve got 57 stations already spinning it after two and a half weeks.
Their next song, “Get Higher,” which is the next single, gets released the end
of this month. I’m really excited for those guys. You don’t just call the radio station and they
start playing your record.
Does your knowledge
of music help you pick the right artists for you, for Bullfrog Records?
Well, again, is there a process to picking that? I don’t
know. You know this guy’s a producer, that guy’s a musician. You know the next
person could be a school teacher. I think that everybody has ears and you know
what you like and you know what you don’t like. I guess kind of how I pick
things is my own personal taste and what I think. It’s just something I think
other people would like and we should work on getting it out to more people.
That’s kind of really what I go by, not the fact that maybe’s it’s the best
musicianship or the best guitar player or the best drummer. I don’t think
that’s always what wins. I think it’s probably the chemistry of the band and how
they gel together - what do the songs sound like? What are their writing
skills? That kind of stuff, and “is the song catchy, is it something that
people are going to want to sing, the meaning of the song, and all that type of
stuff. I think that’s more important than, “Wow, that guy really knows scales
on a guitar.”
That’s what I do too.
You’ve been in the game a while now. What’s different for you now?
You know, that’s a great question because what’s different
for me now is the fact that I can get distribution. The hard thing about having
a record label like 10 to 15 years ago was that you needed the record to be in
Harmony House and FIE, Meijer’s, Target, and you don’t any more. You need to
have it on-line, on Amazon and ITunes, Spotify, you know on all the digital
things, and that’s easy for me to do.
With the record label that we have, I’m able to get all the
distribution, and that’s the only part we were missing because we can do the
promotions ourself, we can do the touring ourself. It was just a matter of we
couldn’t do distribution. It really makes for our label to be on an equal
playing field to the majors. You know, there’s nothing that a major has over us
except for a lot more people that they have to answer to and a lot more red
tape to go through, which we don’t have. If we decide we want to do something,
we do it. We don’t have to run it through 20 vice-presidents and a president.
A lot has been made of, and you’ve heard this
before, and I’ve heard it for years. I’ve heard it since the ‘70s really, the
death of rock and roll. Much has been made of the death of rock and roll, at
least the most popular genre. Do you see rock music becoming secondary, a
secondary genre like blues is now and jazz?
I see it becoming secondary with the media, I see it
becoming secondary with Billboard, and I see it becoming secondary with
articles from the media, but are you telling me when you look at a band like the
Foo Fighters who were the only real band to play at the Grammys. The rest is
all pre-produced garbage. You got Katy Perry out there with a bunch of dancers
lip-syncing, and if anybody thinks that’s real, they’re just getting faked out.
So what are you buying into? I don’t understand why the public continues to let
it go on and buys their records and stuff when it’s all just fake garbage. There
is still a huge, to me, audience for real live rock and roll. I mean when you
go to these shows, they’re packed. You can’t take a band like the Foo Fighters
and deny it. They’re selling out huge arenas all around the country. There’s a
thirst for this, but for some reason, Top 40 radio is hesitant to play local
artists.
What’s your take on
the new digital sounds created in the studio
So, I mean it’s a matter of, you go in the studio, and
they’re not playin’ with live musicians all the time and they’re just producing
a record, and coming out with electronic drums or vocal correcting software.
It’s not real. Back in the day you had to play, and it had to be real and
authentic. I think there’s still an audience out there who really respects
that. I think most people do. Again, it just gets me upset to see all of this
what I call fake stuff. Everybody lip syncs and they put on a show. You know,
if you want to go to a show, go to a show, but if you want to see a band play,
you should see a band play. The whole thing about that is they can do what the
record does live without all this help and play into a CD. I just don’t
understand it.
I was thinking about
Greg Shaw. He had Bomp! Records, and I got to know him a little bit, years ago
because he passed away, but Greg produced the Flamin’ Groovies and Nick Lowe. I talked to him in the ‘90s, he felt that rock
and roll was not the most popular genre anymore but there’ll always be fans that
love rock and roll and it will continue to flourish in small pockets across the
country. Do you see that from your perch?
We see that. When we went out to Spokane, Washington and
played…it so ld out and most people are there to rock. I mean they love it,
Flint, Michigan loves it, and Madison, Wisconsin loves it. There’s definitely
still those places. I mean, Kevin at the Machine Shop down in Flint. What an
awesome place and what an awesome venue and what an awesome concept. If we
could get that thing franchised throughout the rest of the country, I think it
would work. I mean, he’s just got a great, great thing going down there. You
can’t tell me that Flint, Michigan’s not ready to see a live band rock and
offering, you know, some produced dancers to the stage.
What was it like
working with Chuck Alkazian? It sounds like he’s a friend of yours, and he’s a
pretty big-name producer, isn’t he?
Yeah, I mean Chuck’s done a bunch of stuff. Saving Abel, Ted
Nugent, shoot I’m drawing a blank, but I know a bunch more. He’s done Trust
Company. He’s done a bunch of stuff down there. I’ve known Chuck for, I don’t
know, 10 or 15 years. He’s been a great guy. He’s come a long way. He’s really
got his sound figured out and his studio figured out, and he’s easy to work
with, he’s creative. I think he helps the process instead of hurting it. I think
he gets the most out of every band that he can.
Tension Head recently signed with your record
label, is hard rock metal genre new to you?
Yeah, I’ve never worked with anything quite as hard as
Tension Head is. You know, I like it. The energy that they bring is
unbelievable. The only heck of it is, it’s a little harder to find a way to get
it out. I’m working on that right now. How do we get this out to the public
because it’s not as easily played on the airwaves, although I think the rock
stations are going to love the song. It’s got a great hook which is not really
common in metal type of music.
I was told that you
helped write it. What did you contribute?
You know just trying to get a little more of the structure
to it. Really Tension Head had most of it done when I got it. I just put a
little structure in it. We put a bridge in there, just kind of the way it flows
a little bit. Yeah, maybe put a little bit of salt and pepper in it, but they
made the dinner.
Do you see yourself
branching out further now, like to different forms of music, whether it’s jazz
or…
You know, ultimately I’m open to hear anything, but really
my focus will be on these two bands. I’m not looking to expand our roster as of
yet. You know it’s not a huge staff. It’s me and a couple of interns, and it
just doesn’t pay to get too spread out where we can’t service the people we
need to. At this point I’m happy with Finding Clyde and Tension Head and not
really looking to expand the roster.
By all accounts you
are a very busy and dedicated to your artists. What kind of energy that takes
and how do you recharge?
Well, like music to me is like what I would do for a hobby,
so somebody that would work a regular job has a hobby of going fishing or
something. Music is my hobby, so what I have downtown, that’s what I want to
do. You know, that’s all I think about
Well thanks, Chad is
there anything that I didn’t ask, anything that you want to say that I didn’t
prompt?
Well, I think that’s it. Really, Bo, the bottom line is that
I’m pretty humble. I don’t like to focus on me. I like the fact that you’re
asking me questions. I’m not looking to slap myself on the back by any means.
All I really want, a dream of mine would be for a band to have a number one
record. You know, I’m going to do everything I can to help somebody do it. I
couldn’t do it with my own band. I think I I’m better as a promoter, a label,
and a guy behind the scenes kind of help. If I can help make somebody’s dream
come true, that would make my dream come true.
You know, Chad, you’re
way too humble because you’re known to be the major player in the scene.
I’ve just been very blessed and had a lot of stuff happen
right. I mean, the shows that we’ve done in the tri-cities, the live shows have
just worked real well, you know, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Poison, Ted Nugent, and all
the stuff we’ve brought in, and those have all worked well. We’ve had some good
luck with the band. Like with the playing cards, we’ve cut a lot of lucky
breaks. The guys have toured the whole country and just keep getting bigger and
bigger, and you know I’d just love to get to the next level…I was looking into
the guy from Cold Play who was getting interviewed. They asked him if he ever
thought about quitting. He said, “Every day.” They said, “Why would you think
that?” He said, “Because I question my music and question this.” The guy said,
“But you’re selling millions of records. Why would you question it?” I think
you’re never happy with the level you’re at. I think you always want to try to
get to the next rung, and if you’re not, maybe you’re dead. So for us,
everything’s been really good, but in my opinion when I look at what I’ve done,
it’s not enough, and I want to do more…
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This is photo
from 2006; L-R Andy Reed, Bo White, Jason Reed and David Mead. This was his
second performance at White’s – a Reed Brothers production. I just contributed
a few bucks. David is one of many middle class musicians who passed through
White’s through the years. It was only a chance encounter that brought patrons
through the hallowed and terribly stained arches of this little juke joint…
Mead, Larry McCray, Rusty Zinn, The Sights, Junior Watson, Dr. Slide, Jim
McCarty, Johnny Bassett, JoCaine, and Alberta Adams, just to name a few. By and large they all busted their humps,
played great and picked up a few bucks. It was never enough money. They
deserved more. With a few notable exceptions I never really got to know these
musical gypsy vagabonds. But I loved them just the same. They inspired me and
led me down the eight fold path - to make a living in a righteous way, to seek
truth. Mead was more accessible than many. I remember sitting with him at the
corner of the bar by the front window. He talked about his recent marriage to
artist Natalie Cox, recording in New York and his preference for touring as a
solo artist. He gave me a copy of his new CD Tangerine. I could tell he was
digging the new pop emphasis in his songwriting. Mead played many of the songs
from Tangerine including Chatterbox, Hunting Season, Hallelujah I Was Wrong,
and Hard To Remember. Meade has a smooth tenor reminiscent of a young Bruce
Johnston (Beach Boys). One of my personal highlights was Meade singing God Only
Knows. It is superb. Most of all I liked David Meade’s integrity. He and the
Reed Brothers were a perfect match.
Keef Courage
is a breath of fresh in a music scene that is reeling from changing tastes and
aging cool. There is nothing new under the sun yet these hip hop rockers bring
a fresh spirit and perspective informed by a love for sounds and rhythms. They
seem to channel the energy of Eminem while embracing the pastoral scenes
created by Atmosphere
Jay Freer was able to sit down to talk about the Review Awards:
“We were very excited when we found out we won the Best
Performance award. Jess Williams and I do the vocals and DJ Goob on the
turntables. Our sound is an original mixture of hip-hop and electronic music.
There is no one style we stick with, as we are constantly trying to expand our
sound.”
Keef Courage was formed in Midland, MI in 2003 and from the
start they carved out their individual musical contributions
“Jesse and
Jay write all the lyrics. We select the instrumental or song we have and then
decide on a direction that we want to go in. We then write it all down and
record it.
Jess plays the guitar and some keys. He also produces and
sequences most of the instrumentals used in our projects.”
Review: “In Between Suns” was a sonic masterpiece, who
produced the disc?
All three members of KC have a hand in the recording and mixing
process. Jay and DJ Goob are certified Recording Engineers and have operated a
Recording Studio in Midland in the past.
How did you
get that crisp sound?
A lot of practice and using Pro Tools have helped our sound
develop into high quality projects.
What’s next
for Keef Courage?
Keef Courage is always in the studio working on new music. We
are really going to be getting into doing more videos and expanding our digital
media and our Internet presence.
The songs
have passion that reminds me of Eminem (Last Tango, Music Box, In Between Suns)
as well as sepia toned scenes of Atmosphere rapping about family love and back
yard barbecues (When it’s Like). This disc has a deep lyricism – it’s an
incredible musical statement. Do you view this disc as a culmination of your
collective vision - a masterpiece?
It took us a lot of time to narrow the songs down to what we
believed was the experience of “In Between Suns”. We try to write our songs so
that each one has content and that it makes sense. This was our fourth full
length album and we look forward to creating more music and expanding our
sound.
Cream Always Rises to the Top
The Banana Convention Ascends
The BC5 have just gotten better over
the years and you've honed your craft to critical acclaim. A case
in point is the LEAP LP – as well as
your hard rockin' live show. Are you where you want to be musically and artistically?
SEAN: Musically and artistically we
are still maturing and that's the key to making it all happen. We have been
together for almost a decade now and if we still sounded like the 60's bubble
gum act I think we would have imploded. We are never where we want to be
because we set a high standard for ourselves. We are always working hard and
making new things happen. That is where we want to be.
MONTE: I’d say anybody who is a
musician, or does any sort of artistic expression, should never say they are
where they want to be. If you’re where you want to be, what is there to reach for
and try to achieve anymore?
Shar you got a well-deserved award
for Best female vocalist. You are a stunning lead singer, you can belt
it out or sing is soft and sweet.
You are the best singer on the scene. You've come into your own. How
does it feel?
Thanks.
I am humbled by the award because there are a lot of other hard working and
talented people that deserve recognition.
What's Banana Convention got up
their sleeve for the future?
We have two big projects. One is the
documentary of us on the road is coming together and then a special show in
June. It is going to be a big stage production in Bay City at the Masonic
Temple. Those are the only details I can give right now on that. Also we have
some interesting show ideas to still flush out so we always have something in
motion.
New recordings?
SEAN: We have a couple songs that
need to be tracked and the idea of a new album by winter should be in the
cards. We all have songs right now. We all have a lot of ideas; more than we
normally have. So not to record is foolish. LEAP was the tip of the iceberg I
feel. Since we finished it we are all in the creative juice music making mode.
MONTE: We certainly do have enough
new original songs for another full length album right now, but we didn’t just
want to get to 14 new songs and then just put them on an album. We want to
have, say, 30 new songs and then choose from those which deserve to go on the
new album to make sure it’s the best product we can put out there.
More extensive touring?
Right now we are getting new
material going and have been thinking about freshening up our live show. If we
get in the studio this summer I say we hit the road late fall so we don't have
to do the whole "Michigan" Winter thing. haha
Monte I heard that your brother is
filming a documentary of BC. Is this true?
Sort
of, but not quite. The documentary is not just about us, but more about the
current state of the independent music scene and how hard it is to Do It
Yourself in today’s climate. We are one of the bands the documentary follows to
showcase the struggle and they followed us during our West Coast Tour last
summer. The doc will include some high up music industry corporate suit types
talking about their end of the spectrum while we’re on the road living it from
our end. It should be a really interesting story when it’s all said and done.
It likely will be out sometime next year.
Why is Sean Drsydale considered the
sexiest bass player of the Great Lakes Bay Region...(you know
how bass players are)
I don't really think of my self as a
sexy or sexiest bass player. I make white paper look tan, have the red hair and
am 5'8" on a good day. I appreciate the ego rub but just being a good bass
player is fine by me.
Any last words
MONTE:
Just thanks to everybody who’s been continuing to come out and show their love
and support to us the last 8 years. We’ve grown and evolved so much, as
musicians, as writers, as performers, and as people. We have more in us, that’s
for sure, and just hope everybody stays interested and keeps coming out to
watch us.
SHAR: We’ve been
working at this for a long time and I’m excited about where it’s heading from
here. We have a lot of room to grow and expand and I hope everybody will come
on that ride with us.
SEAN: There are a lot of new and
exciting changes for the TBC. Recording is a must and moving forward is the
always. I just want people to hear the EP and come see us live. The only people
who don't know what we sound like, it seems, are people in the local area. We
are not a bubble gum band anymore. I get asked that all the time. Or the “I
haven't heard you in years”. If that is the case check us out. You are only as
strong as your foundation of where you come from. We are a rock band that will
melt your angst and put you in a good mood. TBC - Its okay to like it!
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